METRO Green Line Time Lapse: Lowertown St. Paul to Target Field

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Take a ride on the METRO Green Line as it travels from St. Paul’s Lowertown to the new Target Field Station in Minneapolis. Front and rear view footage shot with GoPro cameras mounted to the body of a new Siemens S70 light-rail vehicle during a test run of the METRO Green Line. The new line opens June 14, 2014.

Note, the ride is only 3 minutes long.

 

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10 Responses to METRO Green Line Time Lapse: Lowertown St. Paul to Target Field

  1. Peaton May 27, 2014 at 4:09 pm #

    How long is the trip in real time?

    • Matty Lang
      Matty Lang May 27, 2014 at 9:09 pm #

      It’s not possible to calculate the actual time of this trip from the video duration as this appears to be a sped up single video shot rather than a traditional time lapse of still images played back at movie speed (24 frames per second).

      The scheduled time is supposed to be around 40 minutes although signal timing has not been fully worked out and test trains have been taking longer than that as little as a couple of weeks ago.

  2. Matt Brillhart May 28, 2014 at 8:55 am #

    The Green Line schedule has been posted: http://www.metrotransit.org/Schedules/WebSchedules.aspx?route=902&pick=25

    48 minutes from Target Field to Union Depot. Anyone recall what the earlier projections were? I know it was *at least* 40 minutes, if not a minute or two longer. Still, 20% slower than projected is pretty bad.

    Nicollet Mall to St. Paul Central Station is 42 minutes. It looks like the Route 94 does this in about 28 minutes.

    Snelling Ave to U of M East Bank is 13 minutes, Snelling to Nicollet Mall is 23 minutes.

    So it’s clearly not as fast as advertised, but what light rail will provide is consistency and capacity, two things the current bus routes are failing.

    • Matty Lang
      Matty Lang May 28, 2014 at 9:29 am #

      Anything slower than what it could be without signal full signal preemption is bad.

      • David W May 28, 2014 at 11:54 am #

        I hope they are still open to trying preemption at certain lights. The time lapse video really shows just how many non-station, non-major intersections are stopping the trains unnecessarily. Maybe they can get it timed just perfectly, but I’m not hopeful.

        • David W May 28, 2014 at 11:59 am #

          Actually, I just watched it again. One thing that stuck out on University Ave is that the train seems to hit a red light at every station. Because these are far-side stations, the train makes two stops: one at the light, then one at the station. Definitely a lot of room for improvement there.

    • David W May 28, 2014 at 11:42 am #

      The simulations in 2012 predicted 41 minutes end-to-end and 35 from Central to Nicollet. Later on, everyone was citing 39 minutes from Central to Nicollet, but I’m not sure where that came from. Now it is 48 minutes total and 42 minutes from Central to Nicollet. So overall, we seen the time increase by 7 minutes (17-20%).

      Comparing the simulated times between each stops to the scheduled times doesn’t seems to implicate any particular part of the route for being slower than expected. It looks like the whole thing just takes a little bit longer than expected.

  3. Adam Miller
    Adam Miller May 28, 2014 at 12:15 pm #

    That train needs signal priority. In general, but in particular as to the many stop depicted at lights either immediately after or before a station stop.

  4. Jeremy H May 30, 2014 at 2:45 pm #

    Did a very informal comparison of a trip from Nicollet Mall around 5th Street to Central Station in St Paul.

    First image shows pre Green Line, Second image shows opening day. Same time of day.

    Trip on Green takes 13 more minutes than the 94

    http://imageshack.com/a/img842/1407/bwni.png
    http://imageshack.com/a/img845/4462/6m2t.png

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