Why West Saint Paul Created a Permit Parking Zone for Two Homeowners

This 105-foot section of Livingston Avenue will become West St. Paul's first permit-only parking zone.

This 105-foot section of Livingston Avenue will become West Saint Paul’s first permit-only parking zone.

“Parking is a really personal and passionate issue.”

That was Gil Gustafson’s admonition to the West Saint Paul City Council last week as he and a neighbor made their case for an arguably very personal residents-only permit parking zone on his block of Livingston Avenue, a block away from an apartment complex on Robert Street.

The council approved the permit zone — consisting of exactly two properties, or about 105 feet of street frontage — over the objections of the city’s police chief, who worries a piecemeal approach to permit parking will be impossible to enforce.

As a compromise, the council agreed to the plan as an eight-month “pilot program.” It will be the city’s first permit parking zone under a new ordinance passed in June.

The issue

Michelle Pivec, the other homeowner seeking the permit zone, has been a regular attendee of city council meetings, “expressing her concerns and frustrations” about residents and guests of the nearby Emerson Hill apartments on Robert Street.

The problem, as Gustafson explained to the council, is that the widening of nearby Robert Street from two lanes to four displaced street parking previously used by the residents. Now, they park in the next most convenient place – his block of Livingston Avenue.

“I’ve lived in my house for 13 years,” he said at an October 24 hearing on the proposal. “Until the Robert Street project I never had a parking issue.”

“It also seemed to reveal that the Emerson [Hill] apartments themselves did not provide sufficient off-street parking … that was affordable or free.”

Gustafson said he’s seen “people working on their cars in front of my house.” Pivec blames vandalism, theft and a recent garage break-in on apartment dwellers passing by her home.

It wasn’t entirely clear how far from home the petitioners were having to park; but Gustafson mentioned having to park halfway down the block, which he said “gets a little irritating.”

While the city has been working with the managers of the apartment building on the issue, including allowing overflow parking on a neighboring commercial lot, Gustafson and Pivec wanted a more enforceable solution.

Why only two houses?

“What troubles me is the particularity of this,” said council member John Bellows. Others on the council expressed a similar concern.

Police Chief Bud Shaver, in a report to the council, was unambiguously opposed to the plan, warning that a “proliferation of such requests may occur.”

“I fully acknowledge the concerns of the applicants and know it can be frustrating having other vehicles continuously park in front of one’s home, but our streets are for public parking. Moreover, the original intent of a permit parking zone was for a much larger area, one impacting a neighborhood rather than a select few residents,” he wrote in the report.

“I really don’t want individualized parking throughout the city – it would be impossible for the police department to enforce that,” he added at the council meeting.

Moreover, based on two formal surveys conducted by the police department in the area, Shaver said, “I don’t believe there’s a parking issue up there.”

“The only car that I’ve seen parked in front of [Pivec’s] house for the past two months has been [hers].”

Gustafson defended the small size of the zone, explaining that other neighbors park in their garages or driveways: “Frankly, we are the two households most affected by this …because our choice is to park in front of our houses.”

While a search of Google Maps shows both of the impacted homes have alley-access garages, Gustafson did not explain why they weren’t using them, and was not questioned by the council on it, despite numerous concerns that the apartment managers weren’t providing adequate off-street parking for tenants.

Mayor David Meisinger dismissed Shaver’s concerns about enforcement, noting that the city already has fire lanes and other types of parking restrictions that are currently being managed.

The outcome

Council member Jenny Halverson captured the nuance that many of her colleagues were grappling with.

“We need to be careful about creating one-person no parking zones,” she said, while later in the meeting noting that “it’s not just that you’re asking us to come out and secure your spot for you in front of your home,” but address other nuisance issues alleged by Gustafson and Pivec.

The city ordinance doesn’t identify specific conditions that would warrant establishing a permit zone, only noting that “the council may approve, modify or deny the permit parking zone in order to protect the health, safety and welfare of the citizens of the city.”

Nor does the ordinance spell out size parameters for permit zones – it only requires 70 percent of property owners or occupants within the proposed zone to sign a petition. In theory, a single homeowner could bring forward a petition, triggering a public notification process and city council hearing.

Because of those concerns, the council agreed to approve the permit zone on an eight-month basis. Shaver said the cost of a ticket for violating the ordinance would be $15.

Gustafson and Pivec will be required to pay $400 for the signs marking the permit zone, as well as the permits themselves. The costs for conducting the parking survey and ongoing enforcement would presumably still be picked up by the city.

Council member Dave Napier, who remained concerned about a proliferation of permit requests, agreed to “try it and see how it plays out down the road.”

“Congratulations,” said Mayor Meisinger after the vote. “You’re going to be our test study, and hopefully everything goes well.”


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12 Responses to Why West Saint Paul Created a Permit Parking Zone for Two Homeowners

  1. Jeffk November 2, 2016 at 11:53 am #

    These people and the council members who approved it deserve to have an idling dump truck parked outside their house 24 hours a day.

  2. Eric Anondson
    Eric Anondson November 2, 2016 at 12:03 pm #

    JFC. They should not have parking permit zones where homes have garages or driveways.

  3. Stan November 2, 2016 at 2:57 pm #

    I can’t believe West St. Paul hasn’t been sued yet for its unconstituitional and discriminatory rental ban.

    • Richard Holst November 2, 2016 at 4:01 pm #

      Agree with the discriminatory comment. This basically says one type of private community member is better than another type of community member. Hopefully West St Paul City Council gets their heads on straight.

  4. Alex Schieferdecker
    Alex Schieferdecker November 2, 2016 at 7:19 pm #

    OMG

  5. Scott November 2, 2016 at 10:20 pm #

    I know where I want to go and park my car for a while…just for kicks, baby, kicks.

  6. Will November 3, 2016 at 9:11 am #

    “It wasn’t entirely clear how far from home the petitioners were having to park; but Gustafson mentioned having to park halfway down the block, which he said ‘gets a little irritating.'”

    Horror of horrors! No one should have to park anywhere but directly in front of the door! We need to create special free parking zones!

  7. cobo Rodreges November 3, 2016 at 2:05 pm #

    I can sympathize with the home owners. I have a problem with a neighbor who has parked their crappy rusty car directly in front of my house and hasn’t moved it or used it in 3 months and counting!! Making this spot unusable for me, my family or any of my guests, or the family or guests of all the other homes near me. Its just an eyesore that isn’t doing any good for anybody.

    Parking on the street is a privilege not a right.. if you abuse it you should loose it.

    Im guessing this rule is more a personal reaction to the actions of some very inconsiderate people, who would only listen to the police.

    • Sophie November 7, 2016 at 4:21 pm #

      You can report it to 311 as an abandoned vehicle. In Minneapolis at least, a vehicle that hasn’t moved in more than 72 hours is considered abandoned.

  8. Matt Brillhart November 3, 2016 at 2:44 pm #

    I’m actually quite shocked that a City Council was so willing to completely disregard the recommendations of the Police Chief. That part alone is more surprising to me than the terrible idea of the tiny permit area.

    • Eric Anondson
      Eric Anondson November 3, 2016 at 2:52 pm #

      It basically puts law enforcement as on demand parking enforcers for these two homes. No wonder the chief was against.

  9. Matthew Barnes November 4, 2016 at 2:22 pm #

    I live in this area. This is absolutely absurd, now annoyed residents will be lining up to city hall to get their house protected. Then, when someone still parks there, police will have to come out and write a report. What a waste of the city council and police’s time.

    Also, what are people going to do during winter or street sweeping when whole blocks have to alter parking plans? Is this homeowner gonna call the police out then?