Riding the Red Line with streets.mn

A Red Line bus boards and discharges passengers at the Mall of America Transit Station on the evening of Friday, September 8th, 2017.

A couple weeks ago, you were all invited to take a ride on the METRO Red Line. The METRO Red Line is the Twin Cities’ first bus rapid transit line. It operates between the Mall of America (where it connects to the Blue Line) and Apple Valley, stopping adjacent to an outlet mall along the way. The purpose of the ride was to explore a route most of us had never ridden before, and to offer our perspectives.

Andy Sturdevant attempts to secure his bicycle onto the onboard racks amid the crowded bus during our exploratory ride.

Eight of us, including 3 Humphrey students, joined along. When we all boarded the first time, we encountered many hurdles. One of the attendees brought a bicycle, and struggled to bring their bicycle onboard through the narrow and slow rear doors (atypical for a BRT line, by the way) and the passengers onboard, despite the theoretical ease of bicycle access. We also discovered that the reader on the rear door of our bus, which we ended up riding three times that evening, was not only placed on a horizontal orientation, but was also not working. As a result, we all had to board and pay on the front door. 

In addition to being placed in a horizontal orientation, this Go-To Card reader was also not functioning.

Shortly after, we set off towards our destination in Apple Valley. Along the way, we saw most passengers offboarding at Cedar Grove, presumably to shop at the outlet mall or to transfer to other MVTA bus routes that will take them deeper into Eagan, Burnsville, or Shakopee. Those who chose to stay along witnessed 1) the bus stop twice along the way to see it discharge and accept zero to one passenger, and 2) two digital screens above the rear door that showed rotating images (which could probably be better utilized for wayfinding).

Every Red Line bus has two screens mounted above the center door. While they normally display rotating images, these signs may be better suited for onboard transit wayfinding.

The intrepid Bill Lindeke and Andy Sturdevant interview a Red Line regular about his experience riding the bus.

At Apple Valley, we made several observations. One asked why the stations are bigger – and have more amenities – than the ones on Hennepin in Downtown Minneapolis, for example. Another asked if all of the stations were intended to accommodate future skyways to cross the excessively wide Cedar Avenue. I wondered what the reasoning was behind putting the station doors so close to the edge of the platform (which I think is useful for safety reasons, as well as for the winter).

Some of us at Apple Valley TC observing the station and its surroundings.

All stations in Apple Valley feature doors that are placed close to the edge of the station platform, presumably for safety and weather reasons.

After exploring the Red Line, we wandered through Apple Valley to get to our dinner spot/watering hole.

After our initial ride, we wandered through a residential street, cut through an office park, and ended up at Wild Bill’s. In the midst, some of us discussed doing potential future transit joytrips, such as riding every hi-frequency segment of the hi-frequency routes in the shortest time, as well as potentially riding the newly-created midnight departure trip from Wayzata. Who’s interested in a transit joyride sometime in the near future?

Two Red Line buses meet at Cedar Grove Station, an apparently rare sight.

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5 Responses to Riding the Red Line with streets.mn

  1. Matt Steele September 26, 2017 at 11:57 am #

    “LRT on rubber tires!”

  2. Eric September 26, 2017 at 12:19 pm #

    The A Line is more BRT than the Red Line, especially since weekday service on the Red Line was cut to every 20 minutes. Why the Red Line has on-board payment while the A Line doesn’t is beyond me, as one of the benefits of BRT is supposed to be off-board fare payment so there’s less dwell time.

    Were the bike racks on the front of the bus already occupied, or did you guys just want to test out the inside bike racks? I always just put my bike on the front of the bus because its easier.

  3. Sean Hayford Oleary
    Sean Hayford Oleary September 26, 2017 at 12:28 pm #

    I actually really like the “platform screen door” design of Apple Valley Transit Station — I strongly wish they had used this design at the new on-line Cedar Grove station, and at 35W/46th St Station. Having taken the bus from 46th St, it is deafening and miserable to stand in the middle of a busy freeway. In addition to being a safety feature, I like the idea of better noise and air separation from the freeway.

    • Justin Doescher September 26, 2017 at 1:39 pm #

      One of the reasons why I decided to bike to work year round is because that station is so miserable.

    • Bill Lindeke
      Bill Lindeke September 26, 2017 at 1:59 pm #

      That criticism would make a good post. You can get decibel measuring aps for your phone.

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